[quote] Pothos' really solid data, studies, surveys, etc. (don't laugh)
So, let's scan this...30 pages at least, possibly 40, 50, etc. and to give us what?
Most is the EXACT same stuff you just cut-and-paste, the rest is endless unsusbtantiated rant, your personal opinions, bla bla bla bla bla bla. Oh, and I see that old Major Benn Connable USA-Today article again!!!! How many times have you posted this one for lack of anything better? 10? 15? How long have you been using it? 2 years? 3? More?
What else have we got? That usual Salman Pak pic. From the Rush Limbaugh web page! What a joke you are.
Also, you are quoting again that face-sitting "Mistress Destiny" web site! Several times!
Man, how many times have I told you hat quoting a face-sitting web site in a foreign policy argument is NOT the best strategy for making you look well-read and credible about this! You are NOT listening!
That's it, isn't it? It is really all you got to show for yourself. Old op-ed from some military guy from years ago, a Rush Limbaugh pic (oh yeah, the man is trustworthy), and a face-sitting web site. And the endless rant.
Very weak. I am afraid you really are no match for the stuff I am putting out there, new stuff included (YOU only cut and past from your old files) from the Chalmer Johnson's American Empire trilogy (read it, it's good, even better than Mistress Destiny.com!) to countless surveys, reports, foreign policy journals and more. [/quote]
Feel like I'm repeating the same thing in this argument?
If so, it's because you're repeating the same thing you've said. You're recycling your same arguments over and over again. Since you failed to get this, I'll say it again. If you say the same thing to me, I'm going to give you the same rebuttal.
This isn't rocket science. If you don't want me to repeat my counter rebuttals, don't repeat your rebuttals. Your smart course of action would be to drop those specific arguments and move on.
Drop those points, don't repeat them, and you won't see me repeating my counter points.
I used the Major's piece to counter your nonsense that we're "losing" the Iraq War. We've constantly been winning in that country on the military, political and economic fronts. I used the Salman Pak photos to prove your assumptions, that pre war Iraq had "nothing" to do with terrorists, wrong.
You even tried to "prove" that Salman Pak was a "hoax." You presented links from a documentary dedicated to "proving" that to be a "hoax." I enjoyed proving that attempt wrong.
One would have to be stupid and gullible, to fall for that documentary's ploy. They took that site, as it looked as of the time of filming. Never mind that the Marines entered the site in 2003. That was years before the documentary.
That's key.
That area didn't receive maintenance since 2003. Mother Nature took over between that time, and your documentary's filming.
The Mistress Destiny Link proves you wrong.
You consistently try to doubt my statements of being in the military. Slapping you with that link is the best response to your doubts. The poster saw evidence that I'm in the military.
You tend to have issues with me slapping you around with my military background. That really beats your ego up. You can't stand the handicap that you're in with this Argument. We're debating about Iraq. You've never deployed there, I have.
That puts our disagreement, about our progress there, into perspective. It's one that forces you to be intellectually dishonest to remain in this fight.
By logical extension, my disagreement with you is based on first hand experience.
To sate your ego, you stumble over yourself trying to dismiss my experiences. You try to cast doubt on me.
Your antiques left me with no other choice. I have to keep reminding you that what I say about myself is true. By logical extension, that's proof that I have more authority and credibility than you do on this subject.
Go ahead, keep doubting that I served. I'll keep smacking you with links to posts proving that I'm in the military.
You complain that I'm not listening to you. How many times do I have to tell you that I don't accommodate people that I'm debating with? How many times do I have to tell you people that you don't control what I do? You guys only control what you guys do.
You constantly repeat your same drivel. I slap you with the same rebuttals. You respond by complaining about me hitting you with the same things. This reminds me of the kid that keeps complaining every time the red stove burner burns him.
You lost this argument a long time ago. You'd rather be intellectually dishonest by remaining in this fight. That's better in your eyes than doing the honorable thing and bowing out of this fight.
Your "new" sources don't support your argument.
They're very biased, not grounded on logical thought, or defendable with a reasonable argument. If you go back through this thread, you'd see me successfully present a logical argument against your sources... Or prove that your sources have nothing to do with the argument.
My sources? The best that you could do is attack them without proving the facts that they contain "wrong." You're full of it if you think that the information that you brought up comes anywhere near to matching what I've brought up. They don't.
The trilogy that you mentioned? You mentioned it elsewhere, and I rebutted them.
Yes, I looked at those books. What you portray them to be is different from what those books actually are. That difference is like night and day. Those books don't bolster your arguments about Iraq. You're taking a theme of those books, "the blow back," then erroneously applying it to Iraq.
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