JS42: Dude, I am a contributing member here also, and with that, I also have every right to state my opinion.
I never said that you don't have any right to state your opinion. But, if you're going to complain about what I'm doing on a thread... then demand that I take certain actions... then I'm going to tell you what you should do instead.
Are you tired of seeing me post? Don't want me to make additional posts? Then refrain from clicking on the threads that I participate in. Demanding that the moderators "shut me up," simply because you don't want to see me make any more posts, doesn't cut it.
The point I got across to you is that you can't control what I do. You only control what you do. Want the discussion to end? Don't give me an excuse to come back and add more posts.
JS42: Unlike you, I don't feel the need to make a spectacle of myself.
You made a spectacle of yourself on the other thread... or did you forget that you freaked out over my refusing to give up replies? You came across as someone breaking down.
JS42: You made your point clear back on the first page,
And so did everybody else. But I don't see you complaining about the opposition continuing on.
JS42: the rest of this is just silly and immature,
If this is silly and immature, then why did you still participate? Did you tell the others that they're being silly and immature? I doubt it.
The fact that you won't address the opposition doing this speaks volumes.
You're complaining that I won't stop hammering the side of the argument that you supported. What you dismiss as "silly and immature" is my refusing to give up. You're really complaining about my determination to fight the opposition until they go silent.
This attitude drives you guys up the wall. But guess what?
It's the same drive that causes me to never give up in other things. I wouldn't have my masters degree if it weren't for that drive. I wouldn't be able to paint an oil still life, with no formal instructions, without that drive. I wouldn't have seen the world without that drive.
What does this boil down to?
You're dismissing my drive to succeed as "childish."
JS42: and will continue to be because YOU bring nothing new to this thread other than continuing your rants.
By your logic, if one doesn't bring something new to the debate, they're being silly and immature? Got you. Since you haven't figured this out by now, what I say in my counter replies depends on what you guys say in the posts that I'm countering.
If you feel that I'm not contributing anything new, it's because those that I'm debating aren't contributing anything new.
Surprise, surprise, I didn't see you complain to them about that. I wouldn't be surprised if you think that your rants constituted "cold hard fact." I'm laughing at that idea by the way.
JS42: I never considered myself a "saint" there genius, as I'm posting on a freaking escort board..duh!
This statement contradicts your argument about being a gentleman. You shouldn't consider yourself a "gentleman," either genius. You're posting on a freaking escort board!
You missed the point behind my referring to you as if you think you're a saint.
If you whine about how I like to beat someone... if you accuse me of being a blowhard, full of hot air and full of self importance... when you post as if you're someone looking in from the outside... when you're really venting about my refusal to give up... you're portraying yourself as a saint, as God Almighty, or as someone qualified to render judgment on someone.
A gentleman wouldn't call someone a blowhard. He wouldn't accuse him of being full of hot air and self importance. He wouldn't do that without real facts. He wouldn't do that from bias.
The only thing you're doing is making yourself sound like a retarded ghost possesses you.
JS42: And you are right, this thread isn't misery for you, but you live in it.
Live in it? No. Come back to add my counter rebuttals? Definitely. I have fun taking people's arguments apart.
JS42: Anyone who puts on a different persona online, or resorts to this childish behavior, where they need the last word no matter what, has serious issues in their real life. And it doesn't take a shrink to figure that out, just common sense. Whether you act like this in real life or it's your online persona is irrevelant, you got issues.
A real gentleman wouldn't pass judgment on someone they don't know. He wouldn't pass judgment on someone without the complete set of facts. He definitely would check his bias at the door when trying to describe someone's behavior.
First, people that know me face to face get it wrong about me. Only a fool would try to think that he'd have better luck... just by reading my replies.
You're way off. It doesn't take a shrink to figure that out either. I didn't recognize myself in your comment.
Shrinks talked to me before and after my Iraq deployment. Their statements contradict yours. Being trained helped them be right where you were wrong. Meeting me face to face helped them be accurate where you were nowhere near the cone of probability. They concluded that I was normal, and had no issues.
So, who should we believe here? Real shrinks or a non shrink who assumes what these shrinks might figure out?
Second, people like you love to project their own issues on me. People that accused me of being "childish," act childish. People that accuse me of having "serious issues in real life," themselves have serious issues in real live.
If they insist on staying in a fight they're losing, they definitely have control issues.
Many people, on every message board I've been on, gun for the last word. These people accuse me of having psychological issues when they can't get the last word in. You come across as one of those people.
Third. These providers offer services. Do their families know that they're on here? Yes, or maybe no. The answer is probably in the negative. They have a different persona in this community, than they do in the real world. I doubt that their kids see the same women that we see here. Heck, I doubt that most the people in the real world know that they're doing this.
Therefore, you bring up a non issue.
Childish behavior? Go back and read the previous post that you made. That's like a child demanding that one of the parents do something against the other siblings. Heck, you could take many of the responses coming from the opposition, and match that to childish behaviors. But, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for you to say something about them.
The need for the last word?
Hmm, let's see, I reply, then the opposition replies. You don't have a problem with that.
You don't go around accusing them of being childish. You don't jump into the argument and demand that those people STFU, or that the moderator's do it for them. Nope. It becomes an issue for you when I turn around and provide a counter rebuttal to them.
So, by your definition, anybody that engaged in this fight against me has some "serious issues in their real life!"
Let me break you in on a little secret. I don't have any major, or serious, issues in my life. My life is going pretty good.
Also, the relationships that I have, in my real life, as well as my regular provider contacts in this hobby, are going very well.
What does this say about your assumptions about me? It states what I'm consistently saying. Your assumptions are wrong. I highly recommend that you re-evaluate those assumptions with the view of adjusting them to reality... or to try to discover why it is that people do the things that they do.
Your original assumptions here missed the mark. If your assumptions were anything like your shooting abilities, I'd hate to be the person standing behind you as you try to shoot the targets in front of you.
You're using inductive fallacy if you think that shrinks would share your opinion, or if your opinions are "common sense." I used those quotations strongly.
JS42: Now go ahead and flame away at me. I'm done with this ridiculous thread you made out of it.
Had that thread not get locked, I doubt that this would've been your last post. I get that all the time. People try to make me think that they're not going to read my reply. But, when I replied, they came back and responded to me.
JS42: Sooner or later, the mods will close this thread, just a matter of time, so have your fun while you can.
One could lock a thread, but that doesn't mean that the argument will end. I'll have my fun, either through creating a spin off thread, by composing articles for mainstream viewership, or by posting this on my "Vox Ultima" (The Last Word) thread.
For mainstream viewership, it'd be a simple matter of removing your name, your post, and anything you say. I'd simply rebut every point you made in an article format, then submit it to webmasters hungry for new content.
We're talking about a series of articles that I could submit to mainstream, nationally accessed, websites. It's neat that there are webmasters, for content websites, who are constantly on the lookout for fresh articles for their audiences.
Updated to add:
I created this blog to circumvent thread locks, or administrative actions against me, that protect the opposition. You people need to get used to the idea that a debate with me ends when you guys give up. I have absolutely no intentions of giving up. This blog guarantees that I fire the final shots.
JS42: Although the best way to let this thread die out is for people to quit responding, like I will do now.
This is the only thing that you said that I agree with.
People need to understand that they don't control what I do. Bitching, whining, moaning and groaning about my participation won't stop me. These people need to realize that they control what they do.
It's obvious that I'm constantly replying to them. They control their replies, but they don't control my counter replies. If they want me to stop, then they need to stop replying to me. It's that simple, this isn't rocket science.
Had they done that in the beginning, that thread wouldn't have gone as far as it did.
