Avenue-X--Jenna Banks Responds to Entastella's Fact Based Reasoning with Emotion and Rhetoric

Jenna Banks:  Sorry but that is nothing more than a bore... Argue with yourself, not waisting time with your drivel.

You got pissed at Entastella for daring to disagree with you. I mean, how dare she jump on the thread with a comment that you disagree with! Why, the nerve of that person! Instead of addressing a new member of the opposition, you tell her that you're not wasting your time with her.

Jenna Banks: You will see that the posters who disagreed with me, for the most part, actually added to the discussion valid ideas and viewpoints.

Your responses, to the people that you disagreed with, contradict your insinuation. If you believed that the opposition contributed valid ideas and viewpoints, you wouldn't dismiss them as expressing an "opinion." You wouldn't have gotten abrasive towards them.

You wouldn't have said this:

"I guess many economists and financial experts are also "mistaking". OPEN YOUR EYES." -- Jenna Banks

If you felt that our viewpoints were valid, you wouldn't dismiss economists and financial experts as being "mistaken." Saying, "Open your eyes," isn't a reaction to a valid viewpoint.

Jenna Banks: You didn't.

Not only did she present a valid idea and viewpoint, she presented an argument based on fact. That made her consistent to the rest of us debating you.

Jenna Banks: Democrats don't contribute to charities as much as Republicans? Where the fuck did you get that from?

Conservatives give more percent of their income to charity than liberals:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

Arthur C. Brooks was an independent when he wrote that book. What's the correlation that he found? The more someone wanted the government to "spread the wealth," the less he was likely to contribute from his pocketbook.

He didn't just mean that they wouldn't donate. If they donated, it wasn't at the rates, percentages, or volume that the conservatives donated. Religion played a role on how much money someone contributed. The higher rates were among the religious conservatives.

This man used facts to back his book.

This goes back to what I've argued. We're not against giving. We're against forced giving.

This is about choice. If someone wants to donate, fine. If someone doesn't, that's also fine. We don't believe that the government should tax us more to accomplish the same thing.

Jenna Banks: I am all for expressing ideas and stuff, but c'mon.

This tells me that you're all for expressing ideas and stuff... as long as they're consistent with what you agree with... or they say something that agrees with something that you said.

You're accusing the opposition of doing things that you're guilty of doing. Take it away Jenna Banks:

"The problem is that you argue for the sake of arguing, and fail to ever add anything new to the mix." -- Jenna Banks

You did bring something into the mix, but it wasn't "new." Your links, and arguments, are consistent with what others on your side of the argument, on other boards, have argued.