War Veteran's Response to the Person that left a Disrespectful Note on War Wounded Veteran's Car

Idiot: I see you have a Purple Heart sticker and Iraq war veteran sticker.

I see that you act like you do not have a brain and that you are easily susceptible to propaganda.

Idiot: It's too bad that you were only wounded, the world would be better if you were killed.

It's too bad that your mother didn't decide to subject your dad to BBBJTCIMNQNS as the sole sexual activity the night/day you were conceived. The world would have been better off if another batch of sperm had fertilized the next egg cell that your mother released.

Idiot: All of you islamaphobes vets deserve to die!!

All you brainwashed, propaganda susceptible people should be forced to go back to school. Preferably, to Special Education. It's plainly obvious that you people's education system failed you despite enjoying the money that the taxpayers gave them.

In fact, the taxpayers should sue your education system for dereliction of duty so that they could get their money back. 

BellaVendetta Unsuccessfully Tries to Shut Down the Opposition

I was looking through Twitter reading the comments on the "wall." I came across a post by BellaVendetta talking about "them days." BellaVendetta looks really young, so I got a chuckle out of reading a comment that she made about "them days" and the "old school."

BellaVendetta: Whoa.  Remember them days? Old skool #ROP sticker where it all began 13 yrs ago... #ROPwesternma... <snip>

I didn't see how the topic she was referencing could be "old school." Especially if one talked about something happening, or that happened, within 13 years of that post. So, I wanted to put things into perspective:

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Aug 30
@BellaVendetta Yup, I remember them days, when we got into a wedge formation when the centurion ordered, "Cunium Formate!" :D

That was a jab against those of us who have been around a lot longer than the person that I was addressing. The idea was that the length of time referenced made it hard to see "13 years" as being "old school."

This transaction took place in the summer of 2014. Subtract 13 years from that and you to get 2001. That year, 2001, was a first year of the 21st century.

Did she get it? Nope. The meaning of my statement, of what I was trying to communicate, went right over her head: 

BellaVendetta ‏@BellaVendetta  Aug 30
@herfacechair umm....what!?

I had suspected, unfairly in this case, that she was a lot smarter than what she showed. So, I had to dumb things down to try to explain to her what I was trying to communicate:

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Aug 31
@BellaVendetta I was pointing out that 13 years ago isn't old school with the reference to a Roman infantry command for a wedge formation.

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Aug 31
@BellaVendetta I got a chuckle with the "13 years ago" reference. :D

Excessive pride showed with her reply:

BellaVendetta ‏@BellaVendetta  Sep 2
@herfacechair actually the suspension community is so new that 13 years ago IS actually a long time we're one of the world's oldest

I knew flat out that this wasn't true. I first read about the BDSM world back in the 1980s. I knew that the suspension community existed in the fetish world back then. It more than likely existed well before my time.

It was one of the ways to live out a fantasy of being in a "dungeon" and being subjected to "torture". Included in this "torture" was humiliation and exposure to pain. Think "Medieval Period" or the "Spanish Inquisition":

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Sep 2
@BellaVendetta I've read about suspensions back in the '80s for both BDSM and vanilla. This included group and pairs.

Common usage for a dominatrix's "play space" is called a "dungeon." What all exist in this "dungeon"? Why, many of the things that existed in more vicious forms during the Medieval Period.

They had various forms of "suspensions" that they subjected torture victims to back in those days. In the safe "play environment" of BDSM, many of these suspensions exist. 

One main reason to why it wasn't widely known until relatively recently is because technology made it easier for people to do both... meet others of the same interest... and preserve their privacy while seeking out information about this activity's existence in the community.

BellaVendetta and her cohorts did not invent suspension as a BDSM or vanilla community activity. They were simply at the right place, at the right time, to help bring light to the specific fetish activity... and to actively use new technologies to bring people of this community together... and to grow and expand the community. 

Others were involved with this as well. From there, it evolved in North America and elsewhere.

Was she going to recognize the fact that there was a history behind this specific fetish? Or that the community existed before her time? Nope. Her abundant pride influenced her next response:

BellaVendetta ‏@BellaVendetta  Sep 2
@herfacechair are you really trying to school Me about something that I live everyday? please dont the conversation is over

This was an attempt to "shut me up." Unfortunately for her, I didn't follow her idea of a dominatrix versus submissive relationship. She's a professional dominatrix. Outside of a professional session, to include coordinating to have such a session happen, I was under no obligation to behave as her submissive.

Also, the only way that she was going to get me to not reply to her anymore, or for me to be quiet, was for her to not reply to me at all. All she had to do was ignore me and not even reply to me.

Given the tone of her voice toward me in this thread, I was not going to do what she demanded. I sensed an overabundance of pride on her part. She still refused to acknowledge the point I was getting across, so I had to give her a perspective:

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Sep 3
@BellaVendetta As a veteran of a modern war, I welcomed knowledge from a Roman soldier reenactor. Moral of the story?

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  Sep 3
@BellaVendetta Moral of the story? Your experience doesn't negate what I've read about the topic of your experience back in the '80s.

One point that I was getting across here is that I was willing to listen to a Soldier, who had no deployment or actual active duty time under his belt, go over the different commands and procedures that ancient Roman armies went through.

The moral of the story is that we do not know everything.

Just as a modern Soldier is going to have experience doing battle drills, these modern soldiers are not always going to have experience, and possibly have no knowledge, of the commands and procedures used by generations of military before the existence of the US military.

Likewise, a modern dominatrix would be unwise to insinuate that she invented, was one of the people/groups that invented, or knows everything there is to know, about a topic that came into existence centuries, possibly millennia, before her existence... Or that she had created, alone, or as part of a group, etc, such a community.

By then, her pride was 100% in control of her actions:

BellaVendetta ‏@BellaVendetta  22h
@herfacechair moral of the story when someone tells you a conversation is over fucking drop it

Again, she was trying to "force" an action that require me to do something I had no intention of doing.

If she truly wanted this to end, she could've simply ignored me and not said anything else. If she wanted to say something, she could've simply said, "This conversation is over." She would've said that as a stand-alone statement in response to me. She would not have said anything else with it.

One simply cannot just reply and rebut somebody, then try to "preserve" the last word for themselves by demanding that the other person stop replying.

It doesn't work that way.

When it comes to debates, I follow my own rules. One of those rules is to keep replying to someone that consistently replies to me. The only way to stop me from replying to them is for them to not reply to me.

I reminded her of her responsibilities:

herfacechair ‏@herfacechair  17m
@BellaVendetta Nobody is forcing you to respond to me. I also don't take orders from you. Be an adult and control your own fucking actions.

Mistress Bella destroyed on Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums, Strikes Victor on her Findom Mistress Bella Blog

<blockquote>Mistess S., Also Known As Mistress Bella of Findom Mistress Bella, farts this out:

Sounds a lot like a member called herfacechair on the Mistress Destiny forum. That guy is such an arrogant tool.</blockquote>

Mistress Bella, aka Mistress S., you have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about.

First, I've seen Head Mistress Porsche Lynn, Mz. Lizza, and Mistress Domina Katie for facesitting sessions. None of my interactions with them, before, during, or after our sessions, were remotely close to the transaction that happened in your blog post. None of the 3 have shut me off from future service.

I read their websites thoroughly before I approached them about my specific fetish. With Head Mistress Porsche Lynn, I already knew that she'd cater to that fetish.

I didn't try to talk them down, nor did I try to dictate to them how they should do their jobs as mistresses. Instead, I was thorough about what I was looking for in a session while remaining within bounds listed in their website.

Second, I've never attempted to contact you for a session, so you don't have a leg to stand on telling people that the guy that interacted with you is anything like me.

My pointing out my military credentials, in a military related debate, against your lack of said credentials, doesn't constitute arrogance on my part. Your insinuating that your interactions with other possible veterans "gives you equal standing" in that debate demonstrated your arrogance.  

Third, don't dismiss my refusal, to accept hearsay on your part as equivalent to my first-hand military experiences, as my being "arrogant." It's simply me refusing to give any standing to what you've heard from people that you think are veterans... When compared to my first-hand military experiences.

There's simply no equivalent standing, not even remote. My refusing to see it that way does not constitute my being "arrogant."

Don't dismiss my refusal, to accept your interactions with "veterans" as equivalent to me actually being a veteran, as my being "arrogant." You cannot even tell whether or not someone was a veteran just by talking to them if you don't have military experience of your own. That's not me being "arrogant," that's me giving you a fact.

Again, it's me refusing to see any equivalent standing to you "being" with "veterans" as being "equivalent" to my actually being a veteran.

The fact of the matter is that we were debating on a military and war related topic. You are the civilian, with no military experience, to my being a war veteran... In a thread where both veterans and war were talked about.

My pointing that out, as it relates to the argument, does not make me "arrogant."

You didn't like the fact that I had experiences and knowledge relevant to what we were arguing about... as opposed to the opinion that you had that you were trying to elevate.

My refusal, to see any equivalent standing between us, is not me being "arrogant." It's my refusing to allow you to ride your countrymen's, and mine, coattails in an attempt to give validity to your standing in this specific debate.

If anything, arrogance is what drove you to do that. You're too arrogant to admit, or even to acknowledge, that I had a better vantage point then you, and that I had more credibility than you, in the argument we were engaged in.

Your arrogance attempted to diminish my standing and to elevate yours. You would not have done this if you weren't arrogant. Arrogance drove you to take a swipe at me on your site. Your arrogance blinded you to the fact that you were arguing with a war veteran on a topic that talked about war and veterans... Something that related to that war veteran's first-hand experience against your lack of it.

In fact, arrogance radiated from that Findom Mistress Bella post and comment... and from your Mistress Destiny Femdom Forum posts during that debate. You've done what other people, that I've debated with have done before, deflect your traits onto the person that's hammering you.

Fourth, don't mistake my sticking to the facts, logic, reason, and the debate topic as my being "arrogant." Let's face it, I destroyed you in debate on Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums. You couldn't get your way with me on that thread, so you stomped over to your blog, Findom Mistress Bella, and took a swipe at me.

Fifth, what I told you in the debate we had prior to you making the above comment on your blog:

"My approach is simple. Take stepoverme58's and your posts, then dismantle and prove them wrong, or call them into question, point by point and using facts, reason, and logic. That doesn't make me 'arrogant' or 'conceited.'" -- herfacechair, 2013

I highly recommend that you pull your head out of your butt and accept the fact that you, and someone that you sided with on Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums, got your azzes handed to you in debate.

Yes, I understand that this is almost 2 years old, but guess what? As I stated on that thread that I hammered you on:

"I'll tell you the same thing that I told trail back in 2005/2006. I'll rebut you even if I don't get back with you within the next 24 hours, the next 48 hours, the next 96 hours, the next week, the next month, the next year, the next decade, etc." -- herfacechair, 2013

Hence, this 2015 reply to your 2013 Findom Mistress Bella blog post.